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u/Tballz9 4d ago

What a crazy thing to leave out the most important part.

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u/lost_in_connecticut 4d ago

Student: “why was she asked to move?”

Teacher: “Um, um…. Thursday in Montgomery.”

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u/underwear11 4d ago

T: "Because she wasn't allowed to sit there"

"Why?"

"Because"

"But why wasn't she allowed to sit there?"

"Just because she wasn't"

"That doesn't make any sense, why?"

"That is something you have to ask your parents"

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u/Tomnnn 4d ago

"That is something you have to ask your parents"

Which will play out hilariously. Parents will be furious that their kids are asking them why Rosa parks had to change seats.

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u/jml011 4d ago edited 4d ago

Well, also, as it’s told, wouldn’t this just encourage kids to blindly rebel against authority, like regardless of context or merit of the situation?

Edit: Buses are prime examples of where kids need to follow instructions due to safety reasons. Without context, defiance is a terrible lesson to teach kids.

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u/MakesMyHeadHurt 4d ago

Yep, they just made Rosa Parks look like a Karen.

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u/chainmailbill 4d ago

They made Rosa Parks look “uppity”

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u/mynameisethan182 4d ago

Probably the intent there.

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u/TheLittleGremlinMan 4d ago

Absolutely. You teach children that they are supposed to obey, do what you’re told. “She did not.” That’s all a kid will get out of reading this, completely twisting the reason why kids learn about Rosa Parks at all. Very fucked up

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u/MountainStill4111 4d ago

The cops told me to pull over. But I did what I thought was right😂

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u/fernshade 4d ago

They are really shooting themselves in the foot with their bullshit. Gonna be a leopardsatemyface type situation as soon as the kids reach age 13.

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u/CollegeGlowUp 4d ago

Im worried this will lead to alternative history being concocted even more.

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u/fernshade 4d ago

TBH I am surprised they kept her or anything pertaining to the 60's civil rights movement in the book at all. Why even bother?

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u/CollegeGlowUp 4d ago

Likely for national testing purposes

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u/Jbales901 4d ago

They'll screw that up pretty bad still.

Like the main part of Rosa is that she spurred on the bus boycott.

Cannot talk about fighting for rights without talking about the oppression

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u/anythingMuchShorter 4d ago

If you’ve seen the state of Florida, the whole place is a “leopards ate my face” situation.

High crime and violence, off the charts homelessness and poverty, tar globs all over the beaches, contaminated tap water. You literally can’t walk anywhere, drive anywhere, or drink or eat anything without seeing the consequences of unregulated capitalism, and yet they get them all to blame liberals who haven’t been in power there.

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u/MarkHirsbrunner 4d ago

Bunch of white kids refusing to move out of the disabled/elderly seating on the bus and thinking they are courageous just like Rosa Parks.

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u/Hot_Idea1066 4d ago

Fuck you I won't do what you tell me

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u/Hamafropzipulops 4d ago

That's what I as thinking. This is a parable that teaches kids it's OK to be an asshole.

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u/WhoWhyWhatWhenWhere 4d ago

“Why aren’t these schools teaching my kids anything”

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u/Tomnnn 4d ago

eventually florida schools will be literal daycare where the only thing kids learn is obedience to the state

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u/Chickwithknives 4d ago

It’s their way of raising a cheap labor work force that is too poor to move somewhere better.

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u/DistributedIntellect 4d ago

"WHY IS MY KID ASKING ME ABOUT ROSA PARKS? YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO TEACH THAT RACE STUFF AT SCHOOL"

will literally be the subject of emails and calls....

this is where we are headed ladies and gentlemen

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u/MackLuster77 4d ago

2024 - Any mention of Rosa Parks is completely removed from textbooks because it's "just too controversial."

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u/Green-Umpire2297 4d ago

And they’ll raise hell at the next PTA, and lobby for additional regulations making it unlawful to suggest that children ask their parents about subjects they are not permitted to learn about in school. In fact, it will be illegal to give the children any suggestion or information on how to learn about anything that is not prescribed by the state.

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u/Sadiepan24 4d ago

Parents: " We don't know why either. Dont they teach you at school!?"

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u/jbasinger 4d ago

Republicans: See? Public education just doesn't work. Shut it all down.

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u/Odd_Conversation1295 4d ago

"That is something you have to ask your parents"

I really hope the teachers don't suggest that. It's Florida but the kids deserve to know the truth and throughout covid it was clear that leaving it up to parents will result in most kids not learning.

Hopefully teachers can say they can't teach the "why" and that if they want to learn why they can search online and read more about it. Are teachers even allowed to bring up the fact that they can't teach certain things in school anymore or is that illegal as well? I don't know if/when schools teach kids how to search for things online but this could be a good time to do so if they haven't already and it won't cause trouble for them.

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u/AloneAddiction 4d ago

Unfortunately the trouble with that is that we already know that Google search is extremely easy to manipulate.

Remember the month where searching for "moron" brought up pictures of Trump?

Funny I know, but now imagine searching for Rosa Parks in the future and only getting sanitised results.

We already know that Google does this in China, Russia and elsewhere, so how long until it's done here too?

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u/Needs_More_Gravitas 4d ago

The kids conservative parents: “Cause she was a troublemaker who should have just sat in her section and kept her mouth shut.”

And that’s how new racists are born and exactly what the GOP wants.

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u/slamdamnsplits 4d ago

Plot twist: She was already sitting in her section.

That's why her case was believed to be strongest to pursue in court (wikipedia link above or Google 'rosa parks')

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u/MisterThirtyThirty 4d ago

Uhh…about 11 o’clock

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u/Steph2145 4d ago

Now it just sounds like beginning of a math problem.

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u/8sack 4d ago

how many seats are left?

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u/eatnhappens 4d ago

Those poor Florida kids are going to think the number of seats in the bus will lead them to an answer.

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u/Ganjikuntist_No-1 4d ago

All part of the plan destroy public education to the point where it holds no value and everyone have to go to private schools that can just completely ignore it.

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u/Candydevil-1000 4d ago

The 2nd one makes Rosa seem like a Karen ngl

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u/BellsOnNutsMeansXmas 4d ago

It also makes it fair game to put my own "did what I thought was right" forward as an equal alternative. Like, sure we beat the shit out of people when they protested those laws, but we just stood up for what we thought, just like her, amirite? Good people on both sides type of bullshit.

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u/quannum 4d ago

Right, the last sentence makes no sense without the context.

“She was told to move to a different seat. She did not. She did what she believed is right.”

Which is…what in this context? She just didn’t want to move? She was being annoying and a “Karen”?

Like, a lady was asked to move on a bus and didn’t. Cool, I see that daily on the bus.

Without the very important detail of race and color being the reason, the whole blurb sounds vague and weird.

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u/DranSeasona 4d ago

That’s definitely the point… Context and framing are everything. They are clearly attempting to rewrite the macro-narrative to suit their political agenda. It’s literally how the Confederate flag and sentiments have survived into modern day: warped framing of history.

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u/Neon_Lights12 4d ago

They also cropped out MLK in the background (first picture). Because with this shot in black and white you could almost mistake Rosa for having white skin, but Martin has darker skin and you can see it easily in the full photo.

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u/abouttogivebirth 4d ago

Wow, not being from the US, our education on the Civil Rights movement is sporadic at best (prob still better than Florida's) and I would never have thought Rosa Parks and MLK worked together, even though it makes perfect sense. We probably were given a year, but it was always taught like the segregated buses were years before MLK

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u/John1206 4d ago

Afaik rosa parks was not the first person in such a bus situation, a younger woman had the same thing happen to her like a year earlier, bit wasn't picked up by the civil rights movement, cuz she was a teenage mother (bad optics at the time)

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u/deus_voltaire 4d ago edited 4d ago

Yup, poor Claudette Colvin. And, even more poignantly, while Parks' protest was planned out long in advance by the NAACP, Colvin's was completely spontaneous. Her lived experience was basically entirely coopted by the very people who refused to take up her cause.

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u/googledthatshit 4d ago

I prefer to think of it as her story inspiring the movement. In order for change to happen, organizations highlight issues that happen everyday and to do that requires planning, optics, and framing. Claudette refusing to move is a critical first step in the marathon we’re running.

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u/JoeDerp77 4d ago

Exactly. Can't have "Southern pride" without whitewashing your racist ass slave owning history.

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u/Dotz0cat 4d ago

The only thing that has use for is being on top of a orange car

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u/Hatedpriest 4d ago

Remember that McDonald's coffee incident? Lady was awarded millions over spilled coffee?

Sounds dumb when it's put like that, and it was framed that way because "people will sue over anything!"

In reality, the coffee machine was holding the coffee just a few degrees below boiling. It literally melted her flesh. That location had had complaints about the coffee being too hot for some time prior to the incident. There's pictures of some of the damage to her legs floating around, and they had to perform reconstructive surgery on her lady bits.

She wasn't even looking for a huge settlement, she just wanted medical bills paid. The judge awarded her the additional money more to punish McDonald's than help her.

The way you put forth information, and what you leave out, completely changes the context of the message.

Fun fact, the owner of Little Caesars paid Rosa's rent for a long time before she died in '05.

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u/J_hilyard 4d ago

Didn't know that about Little Caesars guy. That's cool

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u/abouttogivebirth 4d ago

Even better, after he died and it only came out because a judge thought they deserved the recognition, no one in that family/business was ever trying to get anything out of it as far as we know

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u/mikemolove 4d ago

That’s how you do good things.

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u/Icedcoffeeee 4d ago

I read something enlightening about this framing. Applies to the Rosa Parks story too. It's called starting a story from the second event. Paraphrasing a bit here.

I wish I could find the author of the article that came up with the concept.

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u/chet_brosley 4d ago

...and then a bunch of Americans and Canadians and Australians and English attacked a provincial French beach town without warning, gunning down it's defenders.

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u/t_portch 4d ago

Wow. I knew the McDonald's story (and that it was definitely not a frivolous lawsuit as many corporations ran a campaign to convince everyone of - and sadly, it worked) but I didn't know about Little Caesar's. Next time I have to buy a $5 pizza because I can't cook for whatever reason, I'll be happy and proud to be at Little Caesar's. Not even kidding. I Love their crazy bread.

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u/sternburg_export 4d ago

I have to admit, I can't keep up with this. I have noticed what is going on in Florida. But I never imagined that it would be so extreme.

I just thought for a moment it was about the upper wording. Because that is stupid enough.

But the lower one is just ... I have no words. Villainous comes to mind, but it seems far from sufficient to me.

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u/J_Zephyr 4d ago

Villainous seems appropriate. Like Joker, but with no values, which is weird to say.

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u/Psych0matt 4d ago

“That’s my purse seat! I don’t know you!”

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u/concentrated-evil 4d ago Gold To The Stars

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/16/us/florida-textbooks-african-american-history.html

There was a third revision. The final copy reads:

"The law said African Americans had to give up their seats on the bus if a white person wanted to sit down."

The first version with "because of the color of her skin" was rejected because it was too racially charged.

The second version that omits race at all was rejected because it “avoids the topic of race when teaching the Civil Rights movement, slavery, segregation, etc. and would not be adhering to Florida law."

So basically it's another red state case of "that's what we wrote but not what we meant" and "we'll know the right interpretation of the law when we see it." You can't completely omit racial language but you can't cross the imaginary line and get "too racial" either.

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u/kywiking 4d ago

It’s good to know they changed it again and ridiculous that they found the first option racially charged. The big issue is how is a teacher expected to know the ever changing line that only exists in the mind of some random Floridian. It’s ridiculous.

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u/mcav2319 4d ago

It’s about racism, how are you gonna make that not racially charged😂. Literally what the whole thing is about

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u/ShameOnAnOldDirtyB 4d ago

This is every argument on the issue though

Affirmative action, critical race theory, education on school

Everything

"You guys are the real racists for talking about race!" Screams the right

"But how can we talk about racism without talking about race?" Asks the left

"Just don't!" Is their reply

Great solution

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u/EverGlow89 4d ago

Too racially charged?

I'm sorry... What?

It was a racially charged moment in history. That's what makes it significant at all.

I hate this state. I hate that the idiots around me vote for this shit over the betterment of their friends and family.

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u/BonerSoupAndSalad 4d ago Gold

Nobody can feel uncomfortable for 5 seconds. Especially not my beautiful Caleb. He needs to live a life of absolute comfort until he takes over the family boat dealership.

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u/ninjabell 4d ago

Can anyone get me around this paywall? I've reach my limit of zero free articles.

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u/jaytee1262 4d ago

The first version with "because of the color of her skin" was rejected because it was too racially charged.

Lol, wouldn't want to be too racially charged when talking about segregation

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u/Cqrved_ 4d ago

But then the whole story has no point in telling

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u/nollataulu 4d ago

I'm more interested to hear what FL teachers tell the kids if they ask;

"Why was she asked to move from her seat?"

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u/neverinallmyyears 4d ago Take My Energy Table Slap Lawyer Up I'd Like to Thank...

August 28, 1963,… Dr. Martin Luther King strides to the microphone at the steps to the Lincoln memorial. Looking out over the 25,000 people who have assembled there that day he leaned forward and said “I have a dream. Thank you.”

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u/regoapps 4d ago Bravo Grande! Spit-take

And then he was assassinated because nobody likes listening to other people telling details about their dreams.

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u/Ex-Pat-Spaz 4d ago

They say that now, so no change there.

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u/Ex-Pat-Spaz 4d ago

Surprisingly, they didn’t say very much during the Obama years, they did imply it quite a bit and they did use the term “uppity” frequently and without hesitation.

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u/mikemaca 4d ago

They pronounced it “articulate”.

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u/morpheousmarty 4d ago

The trick is now they don't let you say the rest of it.

It's the one two punch of censorship. You lie and don't allow the truth.

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u/Zugnutz 4d ago

My grandpa used to call him “ok Mouthy.”

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u/One-Chain123 4d ago

I don’t think I like your grandpa now

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u/sirbissel 4d ago

Did you before?

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u/LitesoBrite 4d ago

Teacher, why was MLK killed?

Because a bullet entered his body. Now sit down Bobby.

Got this dystopia is unreal.

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u/RedicusFinch 4d ago

Teacher be like!

"We don't say killed, or died! We call it Game Ended!"

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u/DarkwingDuckHunt 4d ago

The bullet was pro state's rights, now go play

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u/Comingherewasamistke 4d ago edited 4d ago

He accidentally stepped in front of a registered gun owner’s firearm as it was being discharged.

Is the example above what is actually being proposed in FL or is this just a social interpretation? The fact that I have to ask is troubling (although it does seem in-line with DeSantis’ take on education. Sigh…

Edit: I found my answer after scrolling for awhile. This company’s curriculum is no longer being considered.

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u/DeadHuron 4d ago

It’s troubling there are plenty of people who are so willing to revise, edit or omit history to the benefit of their own opinions or filling their pockets. History is history, good or bad. There are enough cases where inaccurate information needs to be examined and errors corrected. We don’t need false revisions that aren’t truthful.

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u/Awkward_Buffalo3883 4d ago

“Still, the Florida Department of Education suggested that Studies Weekly had overreached in its efforts to follow Florida law, saying that any publisher that “avoids the topic of race when teaching the Civil Rights movement, slavery, segregation, etc. would not be adhering to Florida law,” the department said in a statement to the New York Times.” — from the hill.com

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u/LeShoooook 4d ago

Assassinated?? By Florida state law he was given the death penalty for extreme wokeness

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u/RoccoTaco_Dog 4d ago

Nah, James Earl Ray just exercises his stand your ground rights.

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u/Sol-Blackguy 4d ago

But then again, he wasn't assassinated for the "I have a dream" speech. It was the one about economic inequality.

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u/bigpurpleharness 4d ago Ally

A lot of people don't know that MLK was shot after he was telling blacks and whites that the only color that mattered to the people in power was green.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist but it wouldn't surprise me at all to learn the rich and powerful had him killed because they feared what an intelligent charismatic man could do preaching to the masses about financial inequality.

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u/MadHatter69 4d ago

And the FBI had absolutely nothing to do with it. Next lesson.

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u/Freds_Bread 4d ago

No, mention of gun violence is not allowed in Florida. You are not allowed to scare students. If we don't tell them about it they will forget school shootings happen.

Don't make little Johnny have bad dreams about his AK-47. Don't be mean.

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u/Murica-n_Patriot 4d ago

That’s to much information, more like “Martin Luther King was an American man a long time ago. One time he had a microphone and used it to describe a dream he had to some people. Later in his life he died.”

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u/Crocoshark 4d ago

"I have a dream that one day people will be judged . . . by the content of their character."

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u/iamtruetomyself9 4d ago

The main reason for the lesson is to learn about her struggles and how she overcame it. What the fuck is the use if they take out the main thing.

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u/disturbed_beaver 4d ago

Exactly their goal.

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u/calumin 4d ago

This is Phase I. Then Phase II is the next generation denying that racism ever existed in America.

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u/big_fetus_ 4d ago

You forgot Phase I.ii to I.iv; internment camps, slavery, genocide.

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u/Boatmasterflash 4d ago

“Its really hard to remove all mention of slavery from the history books when there’s all these black folk around. Students will get confused. We will just have to remove the contradiction”

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u/AnswerGuy301 4d ago

So students get bored and move on to something else.

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u/weallfalldown310 4d ago

Same reason they tend to use black and white photos even though color exists of some. Because it makes it feel longer ago and thus not as important or can impact today. They want to take out the idea that this past still impacts us today because it makes them and their families look bad.

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u/EstablishmentFew 4d ago

In ten years... "We don't know, that wasn't taught while we were in school."

In twenty years.. "Rosa Whonow?"

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u/Mods_r_cuck_losers 4d ago

It’s literally the plan.

It’s a way to manipulate children into voting conservative (eg: anti black) by making the position black people are in from a socioeconomic perspective appear like their fault.

In sum it presents the idea black people had the same opportunities as whites and just didn’t work, so they deserve to be poor. Now don’t vote for any socioeconomic programs that help poor people (including poor whites) in general, because those lazy blacks will get them.

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u/IlikeYuengling 4d ago

Textbooks in 2026: This is Florida Teacher who taught about a woman named Rosa Parks. When asked why Rosa Parks had to move her seat. She answered the question truthfully. Florida Teacher did what they believed was right.

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u/nononoh8 4d ago

They could say "We're legally not allowed to say it was racism". Technically true.

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u/kungpowgoat 'MURICA 4d ago Silver

“Because of her shmin shmolor”

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u/RampantDragon 4d ago

Cause of the Shmacists.

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u/kllove 4d ago All-Seeing Upvote Faith In Humanity Restored Ally

We tell the truth. If there are consequences most of us are okay being fired over it. We won’t be though because nearly none of the people whose kids we teach in public school actually agree with all the garbage legislation coming out. We also won’t be fired because there is literally no one who wants our job. As a teacher in this system I can tell you the majority of us close our door and teach what we know to be right, the very best we can, and with as few of our own biases mixed in as possible. We are underpaid, overworked, and drowning in red tape and paperwork but we aren’t letting kids miss out on learning despite poorly written legislation lobbied for by textbook/testing companies to sell “updated” books.

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u/Mateorabi 4d ago

It only takes one kid/parents though. That’s the point of the law: hackler’s veto. But only if the heckler is white. If a black student says ignoring a subject “humiliates” them as much as talking about it “humiliates” a white kid, there’s no enforcement.

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u/paper_wavements 4d ago

The point of these laws is to bankrupt public schools with lawsuits, so rich people can sweep in & privatize schools. The racism is a benefit.

ETA: should go w/o saying, but the racism is a benefit FOR THE PEOPLE WHO COME UP WITH THIS BULLSHIT.

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u/JimWilliams423 4d ago

Yes, it doesn't get anywhere near as much coverage as the book banning, but ron defascist is also in the middle of pushing a massive school voucher agenda too. Its a reverse robin-hood scheme — loot the public school system and give the money to rich families so they can get a discount to send their kids to hoity-toity private schools (like the one yawn desantis worked at ).

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u/kllove 4d ago

Wanna talk about the “Teachers bill of rights” he’s proposing which 14 of the18 items on the list are about limiting teachers unions.

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u/butimean 4d ago

Please don't downplay the risks. While many may share your views and position, many cannot afford to risk their jobs and shouldn't be judged for that. And they can be fired, harassed, or penalized.

I know of a teacher in a fairly blue area in FL who was teaching grammar in an English class when it wasn't on the curriculum, but the students really needed it. One day someone in administration noticed. The school placed an observer in her class every day for the rest of the term to make sure she stuck to the curriculum. And that wasn't even a political topic.

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u/Purple_Routine1297 4d ago

This is EXACTLY what I was gonna put. When the kids ask “well, why was she told to move seats?”, in Florida, that teacher would be legally barred from saying because of Jim Crow laws in the south.

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u/thg2299 4d ago

I'm pretty sure Florida law makes it a felony for school children to ask questions. So no problem.

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u/DG04511 4d ago

“We don’t ask those kinds of questions here, Molly.”

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u/ArcticISAF 4d ago

"Molly, please sit at the back of the classroom where you belong."

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u/kpn_911 4d ago

They’re executed. Oh, we haven’t reached that point yet?

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u/tj4sheelee 4d ago

As long as they're not in the womb... execution is still on the table for them

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u/Own_Pop_9711 4d ago

Woah woah woah. Nobody said Rosa is a she. No gender discussion until 9th grade please.

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u/Kellymcdonald78 4d ago

Didn’t you hear, pronouns are banned

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u/Mateorabi 4d ago

Bob Dole is safe to teach about. Bob Dole does what Bob Dole does.

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u/HavingNotAttained 4d ago

The revision makes her sound like an asshole. It's so insulting. (To be fair, most of us still learned a dumbed-down, poor-thing-was-tired version, but still...)

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u/elegylegacy 4d ago

"Why didn't she move?"

"No one knows. Maybe she was just being a Karen"

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u/rob132 4d ago

Oh Tommy, you know how "those people" are

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u/FlawsAndConcerns 4d ago

Most retellings also leave out the fact that it's not like she brazenly sat in the 'white section', was told to go where she 'belongs' and refused.

She WAS seated near the front of the 'colored section', but when the 'white section' reached full capacity on that bus, that day, she was told to move further back to accommodate a white patron. She refused because she was sick of being further pushed around, even after already acquiescencing to the fucked up law of the land at the time.

https://andscape.com/features/on-this-day-rosa-parks-refused-to-give-up-her-bus-seat-igniting-the-civil-rights-movement/

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u/periwinkletweet 4d ago

It was planned. It wasn't her spontaneously getting fed up

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u/11_foot_pole 4d ago

Facts.her and homer plessy both intentionally did something illegal with the expressed purpose of getting arrested and tried to challenge unfair laws

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u/neolologist 4d ago edited 4d ago

I think this is a better story. The other one is 'amazing individual underdog becomes unlikely hero'. The real story is about how smart, organized action can get results.

Without the plan and the legal support, she'd just have been another black woman in the system and gotten completely screwed. Resistance alone wasn't the answer.

Being brave isn't enough - she was brave, but she was also organized, smart, and had a plan and support.

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u/unique-name-9035768 4d ago

Most retellings also leave out the fact that it's not like she brazenly sat in the 'white section', was told to go where she 'belongs' and refused.

Nearly all re-tellings conveniently leave out that nine months earlier, Claudette Colvin, a pregnant 15yo high school student, refused to give up her spot in the "colored section" of the bus to a white passenger and ended up getting arrested. Because of her age, her pregnancy and possibly her looks (according to Colvin and her mother), the NAACP kept quiet on Colvin's arrest and sent Rosa Parks to get arrested as she'd be a better figure for the Civil Rights movement.

Colvin would testify the following year in Browder v. Gayle which would lead to the bus segregation in Alabama to be ruled unconstitutional.

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u/ezrs158 4d ago

The NAACP knew that they could send their most intelligent, well-spoken, well-dressed, etc. people as the face of the movement and they'd still be harassed and beaten and called n-----s. But they still did it, because they didn't want to provide their opponents any additional ammo. It was arguably a smart PR move, but still tough for people like Colvin.

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u/theseanbeag 4d ago

That's the point. It was the white passengers that were the real victims.

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u/cardboard-kansio 4d ago Gold

Actually it does. It tells you that you can resist anybody telling you what to do, regardless of whether there is valid bias at play (racism, sexism, etc).

In other words, "my truth is louder than yours, you can't tell me what to do". Without mention of race, this new version is simply enabling Karens.

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u/_hell_is_empty_ 4d ago

This. If the revised blurb teaches anything, it’s that it’s ok to be obstinate without reason. What sane parent would teach their child that…?

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u/OniExpress 4d ago

The end result of a lot of this is going to be that it's less harmful just to not even bring up these subjects that to cover them within the constraints of the law

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u/freelance-t 4d ago

She goes from hero to entitled Karen. Now it just sounds like she was asked to change seats to like balance the bus or let a kid sit with his mother…

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u/Grouchy-Engine1584 4d ago

This is what the racists want.

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u/christopia86 4d ago

I remember when Florida was all funny criminals robbing banks with alligators on sticks and Disney World.

Now it's just the cutting edge in depressing bullshit.

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u/helpmestallin 4d ago

As an ex floridan i feel you. Ain’t no swamp to return too just a sad condo with mournful tits awaiting me home

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u/Swordsman_000 4d ago

“Mournful tits” Move those tits out of the sad condo. Let them get some sun. They’ll perk right up.

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u/kimjongunfiltered 4d ago

Dave Barry was right. High past time we sell it back to Spain.

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u/padizzledonk 4d ago

Now it's just the cutting edge in depressing bullshit.

Well, at least they finally get to be #1 in something.....

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u/AnonymousFledermaus 4d ago

Remember when conservatives were freaking out about the prospect of tearing down crappy old Confederate monuments, saying it was an erasure of history? Now that they're quite literally erasing history from textbooks, they probably hope you don't, so they don't come off as the raging hypocrites they very much are

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u/Emotional_Dare5743 4d ago Rocket Like

When conservatives whine they're telling you what they want to do, not what they want to stop.

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u/Fantastic-Sandwich80 4d ago

If you want proof, juxtapose how Conservatives viewed Trump and a "strong executive branch" versus how they view Biden and a "mad with power executive branch".

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u/MicrotracS3500 4d ago

Less than one month into office, the senior advisor to Trump said to the press:

“Our opponents, the media and the whole world will soon see as we begin to take further actions, that the powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial and will not be questioned.”

And conservatives loved it.

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u/Gingevere 4d ago edited 4d ago

Conservatives aren't hypocrites, they're liars. The arguments they present are only ever the arguments they think are most publicly acceptable for that topic. These more acceptable arguments clash all the time. They're not bothered by that because they don't believe them. They're just rhetorical tools. Which is why they also don't care when those arguments are defeated.

Their real core of their arguments here is dogmatic beliefs in white supremacy and nationalism. From that comes a belief is that the nation was built by "white" men and the sanctity of the founding national myth.

From that comes support for statues of champions of whiteness and banning mention of what exactly Rosa Parks overcame.

They never cared for a second about history. It's all about the white supremacist national myth.


edit: lol, this triggered a conservative hard enough that they sent me a RedditCareResources message. Proof that ignoring the chaff they throw out and going after core of their position works.

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u/lauralamb42 4d ago

This is so well put I took a screenshot shot. I hate the way they argue without the context of their own actions holding them back. It's just a game to them.

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u/CaptainBayouBilly 4d ago

This is why the media trying to catch them in lies is pointless. They lie as a weapon.

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u/jarena009 4d ago

Just give it 3 more years:

"A woman rode on a bus once, and....yada yada yada, now all good. MURICA!"

  • GOP Version of the US Civil Rights Movement

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u/BenMic81 4d ago

A woman - that would have been in baaaad situation without the REPUBLICAN A. Lincoln and D. Trump - once rode a bus. Then woke minorities wanted to impugn the honour of voted officials. This is why DemocRATS bad!!!

Florida Schoolbook ca 2031

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u/Kevundoe 4d ago

The next edition will say she was « kindly asked to move seat and refused »

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u/mikels_burner 4d ago

And then version 3, "no1 asked her to move, Rosa was being Karen & her broke ass should never have been free to begin with."

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u/eatnhappens 4d ago

“Rosa parks was asked to leave an area where her presence was legally barred, the police could have been called instead but an upstanding citizen didn’t want to excessively inconvenience Rosa over a seat. Rosa made a big stink of things and we read about her today so we can appreciate when our superiors give us an easier way to comply with the law.”

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u/soveraign 4d ago

"That's the lesson for today kids. Don't forget we have an assembly on the divinity of modern authority right after our two minutes of hate today!"

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u/BackAlleySurgeon 4d ago

Nah, next versions going to say, "Rosa was too lazy to move." Then the next version will say, "Rosa wouldn't move to let an elderly woman take her place." Then the next version will say, "Rosa made a white person move. White people could only sit in the back."

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u/techman710 4d ago

As an American, this is embarrassing. Our country will not improve until we acknowledge the mistakes of the past. The people responsible for this edit would like a return to a time when the value of a person was determined by their skin color. We need the whole truth.

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u/mlonerga 4d ago

I went to a predominantly white school and they spent what felt like our entire 1st to 3rd grade teaching us the entire history from slavery to the Jim Crow era. They were honest as they could be. They weren’t sugar coating it to make us feel better. They showed us what happened and taught us how wrong it was.

I look back at that and am just so thankful they didn’t hold back. I’m glad I learned our countries mistakes so that I can be on the right side if it were to happen again.

It frustrates me to see this because as a child, this had no negative impact on me. It didn’t traumatize me or make hate this country. It helped me want to make it better. They’re ripping away a very important part of history and a vital part of our moral evolution.

This is a bunch of ignorant people who don’t care about a child’s safety, they care about not admitting what their ancestors did were wrong and avoiding accountability.

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u/Kim_Thomas 4d ago edited 4d ago

Imagine being a person who gave 2-3 decades of their life to the country, let’s call it INVESTED. The country they were taught about in elementary into high school, and thought they knew - only to witness it devolve into a dystopian nightmare which would promote a political agenda over teaching our fullest history with the whole truth. Absolutely disgusting & despicable. FILTH.

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u/fantastic_carrot 4d ago

This is fucking infuriating. Literally whitewashing ROSA PARKS. Fuck you desantis and everyone else that made/allowed this to happen.

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u/Left-Star2240 4d ago

In Germany they’re still prosecuting Nazis from WW2. In the US we still have racists from the Jim Crow era writing our laws, and people who threaten and murder protesters are heralded as leaders. It’s embarrassing

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u/onlycodeposts 4d ago

So what do the teachers say when some kid asks why she was told to move?

I'm not sure what grade this is, but kids are pretty smart and curious so the question will be asked.

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u/TurtleToast2 4d ago

They're literally not allowed to say why. It's insane.

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u/theeimage 4d ago

I hope teachers are allowed to encourage students to do some outside reading on the subject.

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u/Hatedpriest 4d ago

"I can't tell you, but Google can."

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u/autopsis 4d ago

Any child asking questions has committed a thoughtcrime and is sent to Room 101 for reeducation.

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u/jarena009 4d ago

"Ask your parents."

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u/TeslaProphet 4d ago

I miss Florida being know for meth instead of fascists and meth.

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u/OhioMegi 4d ago

Civil disobedience. Rosa did it, Florida teachers should be doing it.

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u/Swordsman_000 4d ago

Damn straight!

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u/me_to_me_stfu 4d ago

Now THIS is actually erasing history

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u/joschi8 4d ago

And then republicans cry about how ThE LeFt WaNtS tO ErAsE HiStOrY

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u/Sadiepan24 4d ago edited 4d ago

*Statue no one remembers being torn down:

It's the end of the WhItE aMeRiCa HISTORY!?!? The colored are trying to eNd OuR CoUnTrY with WoKeNeSs

*Changing a critical part of America history and intentionally lie to children:

You see, this is vital to protect the feelings of white children, for the sake of their parents. Sure it's basically telling all other children that they can fuck off, but see it from our point of view, this was very easy-- I mean hard to do...

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u/Cycleguy57 4d ago

Florida wants its children to be dumber than the adults. Idiocracy doesn’t happen by itself.

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u/ds3461 4d ago

This is fascism. This is DeSantis. This is the GOP

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u/904FireFly 4d ago

Exactly. I don’t understand why this is ok with anyone.

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u/PreOpTransCentaur 4d ago

Because they agree with it. They're so fucking brainwashed and deluded that they think they're being erased and replaced. This is a win against an enemy to them. Nevermind that the systemic power and wealth it takes to push shit like this into motion is so overwhelming that it stands as its own monument to how little they're actually being oppressed, that's all irrelevant because they're not allowed to say the N-word without getting fired anymore.

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u/MissionLeave3556 4d ago

“Why did they tell her to move?” “Because she was a witch”

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u/banjonyc 4d ago

She did weigh the same as a duck

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u/ceton33 4d ago

This verison acts like it assigned seats on a city bus like a plane minus the whites and colored Jim Crow laws. " Rosa Parks paid for a first class ticket but was told to sit in business instead, but she didn't move and believed what she did was right."

Yea sounds about as stupid.

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u/toooooold4this 4d ago

Both versions are a lie. They both imply this wasn't planned. The old "weary seamstress" yarn...

Rosa Parks was a fierce woman and civil rights activist who intentionally disrupted racist systems of segregation leading to the Montgomery Bus Boycott and is considered a foundational act of peaceful resistance in the 1960s Civil Rights movement.

There. Fixed it.

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u/Maciek1212 4d ago

This makes her look like an asshole

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u/Ninjaraui666 4d ago

As a teacher the first question that will be asked is why was she asked to move. This is pointless lol.

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u/This-Manufacturer898 4d ago

The same crowd that doesn't want statues removed has no problem deleting history this way.

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u/Dysthymiccrusader91 4d ago

And then Christopher Columbus played baseball with the natives. The natives agreed to resettle on reservations. First they told us how to make corn because we told them about Jesus.

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u/Afraid-Imagination-4 4d ago

Give it 5 years and it’ll say “Rosa Parks showed courage. One day, she rode the bus. She did what she believed was right.”

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u/SacarverThePantaloon 4d ago

No matter what side of the political spectrum you’re on, this is absolutely not educational in any way

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u/jambr380 4d ago

I just looked up an article from: www.al.com and saw this:

Studies Weekly cited Florida’s new law as its reason for changing the lesson, the Times reported.

The Florida Department of Education suggested that Studies Weekly had overreached. Any publisher that “avoids the topic of race when teaching the Civil Rights movement, slavery, segregation, etc. would not be adhering to Florida law,” the department said in a statement, as reported by the Times.

The company’s curriculum is no longer under consideration by the state.

If true, I am really surprised by this stance from Florida's point of view. It's almost as if...they're doing the right thing. It honestly doesn't make any sense based on the laws they are actually passing in the state.

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u/Henrycamera 4d ago

This is the 2nd time he, DeSantis, has had to back pedal. He's come out saying they (publishers and teachers) are doing it to embarrass him. No, they are reacting to a law that is so vague, they don't know what todo do, so they err on the side of caution. He created this monster.

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u/MissionCreeper 4d ago

They shouldn't be reacting to the law at all, the company should be saying they won't change their textbooks for a racist law. DeSantis saying they are doing it to embarrass him makes them look better!

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u/Joseph_HTMP 4d ago

Historical revisionism, pure and simple.

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u/BowBeforeMyFeet 4d ago

This just makes her sound so entitled, like the morons who refuse to put on a mask 🤣

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u/Marbled_Headcheese 4d ago

Silly Republicans. They seem to think that is they don't let their racism be mentioned, no one will notice they are racist...

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