r/ChoosingBeggars • u/vintagemusicologist • Mar 20 '23
Insure your car and teach me to drive for free! But hey I’ll buy you McDonalds…
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u/vintagemusicologist Mar 20 '23
I have no clue what the process is in the US but in the UK adding a learner driver to your insurance is anywhere from £200-£1000 extra a year, and lessons start around £30 an hour!
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u/togeko Mar 20 '23
In the US you can just learn how to drive from someone with a driver's license and then when you feel ready take the test. I'm sure I'm leaving very important details but the jist is a random guy with a driver's license can teach you.
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u/dresses_212_10028 Mar 21 '23
Nope, it depends on the state. My state as well as many others require you to take a certain number of hours of driving lessons with a certified driving instructor. You also need to pass a written test. Some states provide Drivers’ Ed (at least the learning for the test, not the hours behind the wheel) in public schools.
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u/Fun_Intention9846 Mar 21 '23
Yeeeup. Over 18 you can go and take the test anytime. Under 18 you are required to attend the courses and actually learn the laws. Fun facts….it’s the same for hunters safety!
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u/Life-Butterscotch591 Mar 21 '23
Yeah I was gonna say in my state no classes are required, you pass a permit test, then you need 40hours driving minimum and have it for over a year and be atleast 16. Then you get a liscense
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u/One-Possible1906 Mar 21 '23
Same, the only thing different for over 18 in my state is they don't have to submit practice hours (which can be fudged anyways, anyone can sign the sheet). They also don't have to wait to take the road test. But, from my experience with adult drivers, most who are grown and taking the road test seem to have either had their permit for years and never took it, or had their license and lost it.
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u/One-Possible1906 Mar 21 '23
Same, the only thing different for over 18 in my state is they don't have to submit practice hours (which can be fudged anyways, anyone can sign the sheet). They also don't have to wait to take the road test. But, from my experience with adult drivers, most who are grown and taking the road test seem to have either had their permit for years and never took it, or had their license before and lost it.
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u/Mumof3gbb Mar 21 '23
Similar in Montréal. You need to do lessons with a driving school and it’s recommended you practice with someone in between lessons. But you don’t need to add them on insurance unless they have their license and will be using your car
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u/Dixie_Normus696969 Apr 01 '23
No. You either need a licensed professional or a parent/guardian and the latter is only an option for drivers under 18
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u/AdmiralDino Mar 21 '23
In Norway, there is no change to the insurance, and anyone over 25 years can teach. Although, formal classes and training are requored as well.
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u/Navacoy Mar 21 '23
Same here in Canada. It’s now very expensive to add a new driver to your insurance.
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u/MyShowerIsTooHot Apr 12 '23
You don't have to insure someone though, as long as you have an L plate on the back and you have someone in the car with a valid driver's license for over 3 years, you can drive it without insurance.
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u/vintagemusicologist Apr 12 '23
In the UK this is not true - a learner driver must be insured on the vehicle they are learning in (though note, this will not be something you have to deal with if learning with an instructor as they will already have the appropriate insurance). Additionally, L plates must be placed at both the front and rear of the car and the person in the car with you must be over 21 in addition to having had their licence for more than 3 years.
This info can be found on the .gov page regarding learning to drive or through a quick google. Please note this is all UK, and more specifically England, based.
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u/SnarkySheep Mar 21 '23
McD's, sure, but only off the specials menu...don't think you're getting a whole combo meal just because you're using your car...
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u/katcomesback Mar 20 '23
jesus, like my friend taught me to drive and I bought food/coffee and filled up her tank every time but a stranger
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u/Sh4d0wM00N Mar 21 '23
Will Ferrari ok ?
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u/iwicstsbitp Mar 21 '23
This one just makes me sad. Especially in US it’s so important to have a car and be able to drive. And a lot of people don’t have much if any of a familial or community support system to even have someone to learn from. You won’t ever know if you don’t ask. I hope they were able to find some help.
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u/Tsiatk0 Mar 21 '23
You mean, the way most of us learned to drive? For free, using our parents car…? How is this choosing beggar? Sounds to me like a teen or young adult without a licensed guardian that can help.
I swear, some of these posts are just people asking for help and everyone in the sub just shits on them. It started cool with outlandish requests for free work and stuff, but perspective is key. 😒
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u/vintagemusicologist Mar 21 '23
This is outlandish if you are UK based - its asking a stranger to pay at least £200 to teach them to drive. Over here you have to insure a learner on your car and it’s super pricy. The average cost to pass your test is somewhere around £600 in lessons and test fees as the UK driving test is one of the hardest I’m the world.
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u/castlerigger Mar 21 '23
But they are not choosy. You don’t know the definition of a choosy beggar. You think it just means someone asking for something.
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u/joyfulgrrrrrrrl Mar 21 '23
It is kinda sad they have to beg for lessons as they don't have someone who is close to them willing to teach them.
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u/SatisfactionActive86 Mar 21 '23
is this from facebook? seems like someone asking their friends for help, which is kinda what friends do for one another
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u/coffeeandjesus1986 Mar 21 '23
My best friend loaned me his beater car and helped teach me to drive when my dad wasn’t able to take me. I was 17, he was 19. I just helped cover gas and munchies. In that state you just had to be over 18 with a valid license to teach someone to drive. But it’s been almost 20 years since I got my license things might have changed since then.
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u/solve-for-x Mar 21 '23
From the wording, it sounds like this person is in the UK. Over here, you can be taught to drive by a non-instructor but they need to have special learner's insurance added to their policy, which costs hundreds of pounds. Lessons with an instructor cost the equivalent of $35 per hour. Also, because our roads are so twisty and narrow and because almost everyone learns in a car with a manual gearbox, it takes quite a lot of lessons to become proficient - it's not something you can knock out in a couple of sessions. So this person really is asking a lot here.
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u/aryawitner I can give you exposure Mar 21 '23
Soooooo I was 26 when I finally got my driver's license and was literally taught by a friend who let me use his car to learn and practice on.
Of course, on the day of the test someone slashed his tires, I used a friend's car and ran someone over on the way to the test, somehow passed the test, later got sued, even later settled out of court and even later than that got out of jury duty because of it, but that's a story for another day....actually that's the entire story.
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u/Tylenolpainkillr Mar 21 '23
Dude I’d do it, early mornings so I can get a Mcgriddle. Your car should always be insured, they’re really asking if you’ll let them practice driving by taking you to McDonald’s a few times
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u/vintagemusicologist Mar 21 '23
UK based so you have to add additional drivers to your insurance and learners are expensive too add being high risk, but even worse… no McGriddles here!
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u/toiletcleaner999 Mar 27 '23
I've done this a few times. If a young person needs to practice. I assume they have nobody else and why not. They buy coffee and I help them learn.
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u/mazjay2018 Mar 21 '23
It's literally a person asking for help learning how to drive more than likely because they don't have anyone to teach them.
They're offering McDonald's as payment because they're probably 14 years old
Ffs you petulant dick fiends if they could afford to compensate you handsomely they wouldn't be talking to you in the first place.
This subreddit is becoming a toxic circle jerk of assholes complaining somebody had the nerve to ask for help.
It's starting to wreak that familiar, putrid, and repulsive stench of conservatism.
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u/vintagemusicologist Mar 21 '23
Hiya, just want to address this since you obviously feel so strongly...
The person who posted this did so to a local facebook group, and is over the age of 18 with a job. You must be 17 in the UK to be get your learners permit. He is also well known for being a choosing beggar.
I realise that as this is a UK based post the context will be lost on most, but I did try to clear that up in my first comment. To learn in the UK you must be insured as an individual on the car you are driving if it is a private vehicle (different for driving instructors). This is very costly insurance given the risks of a learner driver costing upwards of £200 (roughly $250) but can go up to thousands of pounds depending on the car being insured. Fuel is also more than double the price. And learning to drive tends to take a lot longer as the test is much harder, with a 50% fail rate for the test and an average of 70 hours needed to attempt it.
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u/GenericMaleNurse918 Mar 20 '23
Maccies?! Dafuq
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u/mnemonicprincess Mar 20 '23
I was too lazy to learn to drive so I would pay my friend cash to drive me where I wanted to go.
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u/RckYouLkeAHermanCain Mar 20 '23
Maybe they should take the hint that if no one close to them wants to do this, blasting it on Facebook prooooobably isn't going to yield much better results.
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u/HausmastaMC Mar 21 '23
is maccies code for sexual favours and/or drugs? otherwise this post doesn't make any sense/is delusional.
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u/Xolokitkat Mar 21 '23
No it’s slang for McDonalds. It’s pretty common terminology here in the UK which I assume Is where the learner driver is from.
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u/tayleurevans Mar 21 '23
Can’t believe you beat me to this one!!! 😂 it’s not his first post either!
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u/Mozaralio Mar 21 '23
Do people call Mc Donalds "maccies"? I have never heard it referred to that way before. Always Mickey D's or Mc D's occasionally Mc Dicks.
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u/educationalfrenchie Mar 26 '23
Australians say Maccas. When.I moved to the US, I copped a lot of teasing because 'it's Mickey D's, why would you say Maccas?' and I'd reply 'because it's a shorter version of the original name? Who invents a nickname that takes just as long to say as the original name?'
'Whatever you dumbass, it's Mickey D's.'
I lived there 10 years and always called it McDonalds (in my head, Maccas.) My son (bless him) called it 'Old McDonalds' (like the nursery rhyme) until he was about five... and picked up 'Maccas' as soon as he was regularly spending time in Australia. Went home telling everyone who calls it Mickey D's that there's a better way, with no prompting from me.
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u/Mozaralio Mar 26 '23
Huh, was in Australia for a year and actually never heard that term, then again I think I only went to Mc D's once while there.
I still like the sound of Mickey D's better, though (maybe why more people use it in the west?) and Mc D's is shorter than Maccas while also being more obvious as to what you are referring to. But I will say "Maccas" when imagined with an Aussie accent sounds like it would be very fitting coming from the few I know lol.
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u/According_Weird6679 Mar 21 '23
In Brazil you need to pass a psychological and signaling exam, after 10h of training, plus attend 20 practice classes before being allowed to take the road test. It costs in the ballpark of 400usd for the whole process, if you don’t fail. Most of the country drives manual and the exam also includes parallel parking on an inclined road/ramp. So when I had to transfer to a Canadian driver’s license the road test was a walk in the park. Also I feel confident to drive mostly anywhere in the world. Getting q license in North America should be harder, I feel like people driving skills are bellow average
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u/krba201076 Apr 17 '23
The person is not too bad....the losers I have encountered won't even offer you fast food. Of course, if parents would teach their kids how to drive and not just push it off on someone else, we won't see this stuff as much
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u/SatelliteJedi Mar 21 '23
Sounds like a teenager without any sort of strong familial support structure. Pretty sad.