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u/Bayou_Blue Mar 19 '23
"You want money for something you do for free?"
brain melts trying to understand their logic
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u/Seaboats Mar 19 '23
Basically the equivalent of walking up to someone in IT asking for them to fix your computer and being like “What, you charge for this? But you fix your own computer for free??”
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u/Nirast25 Mar 19 '23
I see you're not the computer guy in your family.
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u/HalfSoul30 Mar 19 '23
I was for sure. My grandma would call often to help her plug the vcr up the right way. I didn't mind at all.
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u/nokei Mar 19 '23
I remember getting my grandma's aol 9 web browser to work way past the end of life of that software because she liked using it to read the news and email.
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u/TheOneTrueChuck Mar 19 '23
I got roped into being "the computer guy" for a car dealership I worked for, after I fixed a minor problem once. I kept telling them they literally had an IT guy to fix their issues, and their response was "Right, but you can just do this for us, since we're already paying you. He charges us when he has to come in."
So I deliberately bricked two different managers' computers. When they got pissy, I said "I was using google to do the fix. Sorry. I've been telling you for six months that I really shouldn't be doing this."
One particularly irate manager (who was unaffected, just an asshole) was saying that I should have my pay docked, and I was like "Feel free. Just know that I'll be going to the labor board. I'll also make sure they know that you're harassing me and making this a hostile work environment."
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u/Amplidyne Mar 19 '23
Don't worry. They are out there as well. If you have tools and skill, you enjoy using them for nothing right?
One thing doing mates a favour, another thing when it's people you hardly know who expect a favour.
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u/Hindu_Wardrobe Shes crying now Mar 19 '23
this is literally what every computer nerd goes thru 😭
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u/230flathead Mar 19 '23
Or mechanic.
It got so bad for me that I just stopped working on people's stuff altogether. Couldn't have a day off without someone calling me wanting me to fix their car for beer or weed or some other shit that doesn't pay my bills.
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u/NeoTheRiot Mar 20 '23
Logic is easy: Bored Artists ask for ideas or inspiration all the time so many people assume its a win/win already.
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u/myheartisnumb Mar 19 '23
I do embroidery personally, as my art craft. I’ve made patches and wall hangings for example. But I never have sold anything, I only give gifts. I’m not by any means even that great at it. It’s just something I enjoy doing. Well, one of my closest friends had the nerve to ask me “hey, so I have another friend who has a birthday coming up. Can you make a gift for me to give to her? Also can you make it quickly??” And they expected it for FREE! The design she sent a picture of would have taken a minimum of 30+ hours just to make. I told her “well, I don’t feel comfortable doing that, but if you really want to give your friend a gift, it would be much more special coming from you. I can walk you through how to attempt it yourself and help you decide what materials to buy”. She then says “I’m not very good at art, and don’t know how to do it”. Tough Luck was all I could say at that point. If you don’t know how to do something, what makes you think you can request that service from someone that does, not even want to pay, and even demand it quickly. Still can’t believe she would even approach me that way, she left that situation thinking I was in the wrong too haha.
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u/PorkyMcRib NEXT!! Mar 19 '23
I’m not a very good Mechanic, but I can change a whole fucking engine and transmission in a lot less than 30 hours. Not going to do it for a friend of a friend.
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u/AppalachianEnvy Mar 19 '23
She probably told her friend she had planned to get her this awesome handmade gift, but her selfish ex-friend wouldn’t do it for her.
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u/MsEdgyNation Mar 19 '23
I crochet. I have had several people get pig biting mad at me because I refused to make baby shower gifts for them to give to someone else I don't even know. On short notice. For free. I've been told that I must be a Satanist who EATS babies, since I don't want to spend my time and money making presents for them.
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u/jellosquare Mar 19 '23
I’m in this boat. I have some skills and use them to make a few things which in turn I immediately give away to friends or whoever. You can’t pay me enough to do my thing when I already don’t let people charge me.
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u/Fatt_Nuts Mar 19 '23
That's so annoying, and from a friend, too. What design did they want you to make??
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u/CynR06 Mar 20 '23
I'd be like oh it's not that hard.. just out the needle through the fabric.. with the right color thread.. in the right location..50000000000000 times😆. Working on a full coverage cross stitch stocking right now so totally feeling it
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u/enby-deer Mar 19 '23
One time, I approached an artist with the words, "Can you do me a favor?" And like, the favor was "Can I commission you for art?"
I was so confused as to why they had their guard up when I said the first part, and confused still when they were relieved that I wanted to pay them for art.
After I found this sub, I realized that I accidentally gave off choosing beggar vibes with that first sentence. WHOOPS!
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u/Snow_Wonder Mar 19 '23
That’s how I got my first commission, a guy complimented my art and was like “can I ask you something…”
I was surprised, happy but surprised, when he was like “I’ll pay you.”
The guy reached out to me to give me a shirt with the art later, once he finally got it produced.
It was rap music and weed themed (both communities I have nothing against, but no interest in myself), so I gave it to one of my friend’s boyfriend.
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u/SilverTitanium Mar 19 '23
Yeah, it's why when I ask for artwork to be done, I always say.
"Excuse me, do you do commission? I wish to know how much you charge for your artwork?"
So they know that I intend to pay for their artwork. If their rates are too high. I just say,
"Thank you for the information, I will contact you again once I have the money to order the commission. Thank you, and have a good day."
It's better than saying "the price is too high" since sounds like I am downplaying the value of their artwork.
Also I don't ask for duedates. I just let the artist do their thing. I like commission that ask for half in front to activate the commission, then once they give you a sketch or flat color, you pay the other half for the full detail artwork finish.
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u/Snox- Mar 19 '23
Wdym you want money? I want it for free, aren't you enjoying drawing?!
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u/portuguesetheman Mar 19 '23
Think of the exposure!
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u/AbazabaYouMyOnlyFren Mar 19 '23
The answers are: "No" and "I only do this for money".
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u/SeroWriter Mar 19 '23
I hate commissions at the best of times but doing one for someone like this sounds unbearable.
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u/dongdinge Mar 19 '23
yeah esp if they want it perfect and immediately- i would give them a professional rate and expected turnaround time (the rate is more since you’re expecting me to break my back for you) don’t like it well damn it’s a shame they can’t look on etsy
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u/SeroWriter Mar 19 '23
That's how it is. They'll want it right away, then they'll keep asking for minor changes and additions and by the time you're done you've done triple the work of a regular commission.
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u/GTOdriver04 Mar 19 '23
“Can you do me a favor? Tell me how much to compensate you and I’ll gladly pay it!”
-what every reasonable person should do.
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u/Mcall555 Mar 19 '23
Plot twist: it’s a decent commission.
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u/SadQueerAndStupid Mar 19 '23
“can you do me a favor and tell me what brushes and program you use? I’d like to improve my own art and i like your style” would be the ideal follow up to me if someone asked me that lol
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u/Nkromancer Mar 19 '23
Lol, this is exactly what I do. Also reminds me of this drawing channel/group called Drawfee and something funny that happens to them. So, they use CSP for their stuff and talk about how they get stuff on the asset store. There was a period of time where they were using this nice tool and kept getting asked what it was called.
It doesn't help that it was called "Good Pen", so they would just say something like "loving the good pen", and then chat/comments would ask what pen it was.
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u/SadQueerAndStupid Mar 19 '23
THE GOOD PEN I KNOW THE GOOD PEN LMAO 10/10 accurate name pen is good
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u/Nkromancer Mar 19 '23
Also not the best thing to ask on a Livestream chat, since a lot of the tools are in Japanese and they are English speakers.
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u/gdex86 Mar 19 '23
My requests are sorta weird (not a sex thing) so I always when talking to artists about a commission ask if they are open to the idea.
And to preempt speculation I ask artists who's work I think is cool if they'd be open to doing an interpretation of the legend of Zelda in any setting of their choice other than European high fantasy. Then I print it out as a poster and put in the gaming room. My favorite so faris ray punk link and Zelda with a close second being Maori Link.
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u/alm423 Mar 19 '23
So many people want something for nothing. My husband is a mechanic and there was a time he worked on every person he knows car for free (and their family members cars). It drove me crazy because he was spending so much time doing it so I said he needed to require payment (I didn’t mind if it was discounted) or not do it at all. I also think he started to realize some “friends” were taking advantage of him because when we needed something, like help moving, all we heard was crickets. He eventually stopped but still does it from time to time but only for people that live near us. I think that’s because they can easily just walk to our house and knock on the door and he can’t bring himself to say no to someone face to face vs. just ignoring a phone call. I wish everyone valued other people’s time and expertise but not everyone does.
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Mar 19 '23
I worked in book illustration years ago. One time a guy needs illustrations for a text he wrote. I know him so in my ingenuity I said yes. Then, this moron sends me a pdf with a book with 375 pages. He wants an illustration for every chapter of his shitty book. I just gaslight him because the rage I feel was really big. Imagine this: read a bad fantasy story book with almost 400 pages, make at least 25 + cover illustrations of a topic I didn’t do (was not my working area) all BY HAND (I’m traditional artist) AND WITH CORRECTIONS INCLUDED (corrections are money apart, you can give 1 or even 2 corrections for free but more than that are all paying apart). That’s at least 3 months of work FOR NOTHING.
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u/somerandomdude419 Mar 19 '23
“Why would I pay for your silly drawings?” Y’all remember that post? The ladys cat died, and the friend drew her the cat for free, but the CB wanted all her other cats drawn.. for free… because they are “silly little drawings” I’m not even an artist but that post made my skin crawl
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u/thaiede Mar 19 '23
i actually got a private message of a fairly long paragraph from someone saying how much they liked my style and ended with them asking if i take requests bc i do that for my friends/mutuals sometimes. i reread the message and realized how generic all the compliments were and then looked through their profile, they basically just reposted art that people did for them for free so i responded basically asking if their copy n paste begging message actually worked and they blocked me
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u/JoyReader0 Mar 19 '23
'Oooh I love that sweater/blanket/afghan/pair of socks! Will you make me one?'
'No, but I'll teach you to make your own.'
*hoofbeats over the horizon*
Ran off a pair of socks for a toddler once. His mom turned around and promised some complete stranger across the country that I would knit legwarmers for a 4-yr-old, no measurements given except 'thin' but they had to be pink, free, sent right away, astounded pikachu at prompt refusal. No good deed etc.
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u/minnick27 Mar 19 '23
A few years ago I decided to make a parody of my friend's podcast for April fool's Day. I came up with the idea on March 30th and messaged one of the guys that does fan art for theirs. I asked him if it was at all possible to make a logo by the morning of April 1st. I know he works fast, but I also knew it was a huge ask. He told me no problem and I asked him how much it will cost. He said, don't worry about it. I was begging him to take my money and he just wouldn't do it. He had the artwork done by the next morning and I again asked him how much and he said he just enjoyed doing art. I honestly couldn't believe it, so I did make a small donation to charity in his name
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u/Cherry_Crystals Mar 19 '23
They always act as if exposure will make you as popular as van goph
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u/Sandvich18 Mar 19 '23
thankfully artists can now train AI on their art and generate mediocre copies for choosing beggars in a matter of seconds
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u/IzanamiFrost Mar 19 '23
Plot twist: AI gave more consistent results
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u/felicity_jericho_ttv Mar 19 '23
I have a specific kink where I only like characters with 37 fingers 😰
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u/Tlayoualo NEXT! Mar 19 '23
I put up my prices sheet like an anti-beggars SWAT shield, and they immediatelly lose interest because it becomes clear to them I won't budge.
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u/Sarahlorien Mar 19 '23
Mechanics have entered the chat
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u/chogram Mar 19 '23
Basically anyone who provides a service.
Mechanics, artists, chiropractors, doctors, dentists, tech nerds, etc...
I work in IT, and as soon as someone knows that, the requests start.
I'm sure people in this thread have even said things like, "Hey, can you take a look at my iPad for me?", without even thinking about it.
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u/jak0b3 Mar 19 '23
“You know computers right? So you can hack Facebook?”
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u/CynR06 Mar 20 '23
I had my husband convinced for years that I could hack his Facebook..I actually just had the password to his email😂
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u/Thi8imeforrealthough Mar 20 '23
You missed pharmacist: "I don't have money, but if I don't get the meds I'll die."
I feel for you, but if I give you the meds it's not free, it's just that I have to pay for you. I just work here. I've done it with cheaper stuff, but I just can't afford to help everyone, I have a wife and child to support and no one is giving me free stuff...
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u/felicity_jericho_ttv Mar 19 '23
Hey, sometimes my car sputters. And I don’t have the thousands of dollars in tools that you have. Could you do a full diagnostic for free. Also, my car is the one manufactures built to specifically make your life hell.
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u/korkidev Mar 19 '23
Same thing for programmers or really anyone who somehow seems like he knows how to use a computer.
"Hey I got this idea for a social media platform for my niche hobby, I can’t pay you but I guarantee you it’s going to blow up!"
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u/bulletpr00fsoul Mar 19 '23
Umm… which manga is this from? 😅
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u/TheFoxyRhino Mar 19 '23
Oh lol. When I commissioned an artist to draw one of my dnd characters, I lead with this exact thing. I didn't know it sounded bad
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u/LesbianLoki Mar 19 '23 edited Mar 20 '23
There was one artist I contacted so I can commission him to do a piece he showed off online.
I wanted to give the dude money. For his work.
He still acted like this.
Le sigh.
It really was a beautiful piece.
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u/clairebearruns Mar 19 '23
THIS. It’s even worse when it’s your own family/friends bc they KNOW better. I hate the “oh you know what you should make!” Message bc I know it’s them wanting free art that won’t be worth my time.
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u/remnault Mar 20 '23
One of the first times I got a commission done, I wanted to open with a joke asking if they took exposure as payment. But then I realized that probably happens often enough to them that I may just get blocked and decided not to risk it.
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u/Dinosauringg Mar 20 '23
That's why my third sentence after "can you do me a favor?" Is "could you let me know if you'd be able to do (request) and about how much it would cost? If you're not, could you refer me to an artist who would be able?"
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u/Leftunders Mar 19 '23
Irony: that's probably* not OP's artwork under those words.
*I'm too lazy to check, though
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u/hertog_jan_genieter Mar 19 '23
Good thing AI art is improving rapidly, so these people wont botger you anymore soon
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u/esuil Mar 19 '23
Yeah, the same artists who complained about constantly getting requests are now complaining about AI art taking away their commissions, lol.
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u/CoconutxKitten Mar 19 '23
They’re complaining about being asked for FREE art
Also, AI art actively STEALS from artists. So idk what you’re going off about
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u/lulustargaze Mar 19 '23
God, yeah, something about paying the bills? Uhh, putting food on the table? Ooh, i know, maybe, just maybe artists don't want to spend 6+hrs on drawing YOUR requests FOR FREE!! but what do i know? I don't pay for anything. I just ask for free things and get them, electricity, groceries, my rent, all FREE.
/s... just in case you don't get it. -_-
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u/esuil Mar 19 '23 edited Mar 19 '23
I mean yeah, like I am arguing about this?
I am just pointing out the 180 that some of those artists did the moment their money were at stake.
When they had high stream of income with THEM picking who they work with, they were putting down the very people who made their careers possible. I am not talking about simply refusing requests, but making jokes about it, talking people down and all that.
Then, the moment those people were able to get things they want from AI art, the artists suddenly made full 180 and talk about how they need those people and how important they are, or about how they (artists) are being disrespected because people no longer go to them for their art.
It sucks for honest people doing their job to lose the stream of income. But lot of those artists behaved like entitled children or total pricks to their own fanbase, only to be surprised later for that fanbase to turn around once AI art became a thing.
Also, of all the jobs automation took away, artists are like at the bottom of importance, yet they behave like what happens to them is so outrageous and unprecedented, while careers that were way more important for human society went away without anyone even noticing.
Edit: For the perspective, on the side, I sell my services in the industry neighboring the artists who do commissions, so lot of the times I use same platforms or interact with them. Any time I get message from potential buyer, even if they don't actually buy anything, I threat them with as much respect as I can. If they can't speak proper English, I will even figure out their language and use translator to make it better for them. If they just waste my time talking, that is also fine, it is part of the job. But I would never talk down to any potential buyer, insult them, or laugh at them, if I can not do what they requests, I simply politely decline or refer to someone who can.
At the same time, I see the way others work in the field of low/mid level of artist requests, or interact with them myself. The levels of unprofessionalism in there is off the chart. Lot of those artists were taught or self-taught about how to do their stuff, but they have no clue about business side of things or client interactions. So they are very unprofessional, rude, dismissive, untimely (when I am online and open up my listings for requests, I am concerned if I reply to those who message me even 5-10 minutes late. Meanwhile other people can take literally days to even reply).
The buyer or interested party can be rude to you. But they are a client. Private party. You are not. You are business, a professional. You are not supposed to act like private party or their friend. Yet I constantly see the opposite. Late replies, ridiculing for haggling instead of simply politely refusing, sharing personal information or requests you got with others without buyer permission, missed timeframes, dismissive attitude, talking down. Those people treat their clients as followers, fans, people who owe them something. It is terrible.
On higher levels there is more professionalism, but when we are talking about mid-tier, it is infested with rudeness and unprofessionalism. Which is understandable for clients - they are private party, like I said - but completely incredible to see from those whos livelihood depends on this.
Which is why yes, I do find it very ironic when those very artists are outraged about AI art, because now it is suddenly their "business" and livelihood, not an hobby, yet before all this many of them treated it unprofessionally, not as a business, but as a hobby in which they don't sell services, but do favors.
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u/neoalfa Mar 19 '23
The problem is exactly that money is at stake. No one has ever complained about too much paid work. That just means you can raise your rates.
It's people who want your time and effort for free that artists complain about.
AI will take away paying customers.
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u/esuil Mar 19 '23
No one has ever complained about too much paid work.
Well, yeah, but I talked about people who literally complained exactly about that.
I am not talking about honest artists who kept it nice and professional. I am talking about subset who made it toxic and dismissive.
It's people who want your time and effort for free that artists complain about.
Only partially. We both know that artists are not perfect. For every artist that complained about just that, there are 2 who complained about all kind of random bullshit.
I work in neighboring industry and seen it first hand, edited out my post for more perspective.
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u/Nonsuperstites Mar 19 '23
Your edit is just a long winded "artists do not behave like the customer is always right and that makes me upset"
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u/esuil Mar 19 '23
Sure, you can read it that way. It does make me upset, because many people treat their clients very unprofessionally, but the moment their career is at stake, they are surprised they don't get as much support as they expected.
And also because it does not take lot of effort to be professional, in fact, in many cases people spend more effort to be unprofessional due to spending more time on stuff they could simply not do.
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u/ScoopDat Mar 19 '23
Well, yeah, but I talked about people who literally complained exactly about that. I am not talking about honest artists who kept it nice and professional. I am talking about subset who made it toxic and dismissive.
Ah yes, the strawman version. Or the extreme minority you can count them in one finger in the same way you could count the sort of mental illness they might have.
Also the complaint about AI art currently is property rights violations, their work being scrapped because the AI industry is on a mad dash to do as much as the can before laws can clamp down on them (in the same way they never bothered with copyrighted music due to them knowing that industry of artists is filled with litigious attitude that can't wait to sue you if you dared make use of their property without permission).
Your take is eye rollingly infantile, and when half decent points come up, they're addressing the equivalent of some alien life form with how uncommon such construal of a person might be.
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u/esuil Mar 19 '23
Ah yes, the strawman version. Or the extreme minority you can count them in one finger in the same way you could count the sort of mental illness they might have.
So just because they are minority, me finding it ironic how they turned around their tune, is invalid?
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u/ScoopDat Mar 19 '23
The tunes aren't mutually exclusive, you can complain about idiotic requests, and complain about AI driven art generation is going to affect your career prospects. AI proliferating or not, their complaint can not only be valid, but straightforwardly sound.
You don't have a valid argument. You speak in ambiguities like "artists who make things toxic", whatever that even means. It's not particularly interesting that someone talks down dumb requests and ridicules it. They don't have to be professional if they don't want to. AI art generation paradigm shifting has nothing to do with that other than your internal notion of "serves them right!".
It's eye rollingly infantile if you think normal people behave like corporate automatons. And kidna cringe you think a creative career ought be obliterated due to supposedly these "toxic" behavioral traits some artists have.
I could go into utterly idiotic statements you made prior like:
artists are like at the bottom of importance, yet they behave like what happens to them is so outrageous and unprecedented, while careers that were way more important for human society went away without anyone even noticing.
But I think that's something I should do privately since it'll take some time to dispel such an ignorant notion.
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u/esuil Mar 19 '23 edited Mar 19 '23
And kidna cringe you think a creative career ought be obliterated due to supposedly these "toxic" behavioral traits some artists have.
What is cringe is you assuming this is what I said. I found it ironic to be happening. I did not say I want/don't want it happening. Making an observation about something happening is not the same as wanting it happen.
They don't have to be professional if they don't want to.
Of course. But it does make it ironic when those who were not professional, are surprised when their own fanbase turns around on them and their own communities do not support them.
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u/silverfang45 Mar 19 '23
What's more likely an artist was upset at the customer for something they did.
or that it's 2 times as likely for them to just complain for random reasons.
Just think about what you said
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u/_UNFUN Mar 19 '23
I am just pointing out the 180 that some of those artists did the moment their money were at stake.
Not really a 180. They didn’t want to work for free because that costs them money/time. AI art taking away their job also costs them money (lost revenue).
When they had high stream of income with THEM picking who they work with, they were putting down the very people who made their careers possible.
People asking you to do your work for free aren’t “making your career possible”.
Also, of all the jobs automation took away, artists are like at the bottom of importance
You do realize that art is a part of culture right? The Cristine chapel, Japanese ceramics, Native American blankets, the American flag, the buttons on your phone.
Art is everywhere and without it we live in a grey, culture-less world.
You’d be a fool to think that art is a pointless aspect of our society, when clearly it has had such an importance.
If you don’t want to look at it as important to culture you can look up the revenue of the Louvre, or the Met, or MoMA to see that it art makes money and people are willing to pay to go see it.
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u/esuil Mar 19 '23
People asking you to do your work for free aren’t “making your career possible”.
I never said anything about working for free though.
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u/_UNFUN Mar 19 '23
The image of this post is referencing people asking artists to work for free. We are on the subreddit “choosing beggars” which is about people asking for things for free and then being picky about it. We often see posts of artists being asked to work for free.
So yes that is the conversation being had here.
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u/esuil Mar 19 '23
Well yeah, of course, but that does not mean that anything we are talking about is automatically about free work just because we commented here.
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u/BurtMacklin-FBl Mar 20 '23
We are on the subreddit “choosing beggars” which is about people asking for things for free and then being picky about it.
Except the picky part is missing 99% of the time and people literally think choosing beggar = asking things for free.
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u/_UNFUN Mar 20 '23
Being picky about the price is being picky.
It doesn’t always have to be free but it usually is because people suck and want things for free, and also probably because the people asking for free things are the best examples of choosy beggars.
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u/maybebraindead Mar 19 '23 edited Mar 19 '23
im sorry, i don't think any artists were saying what is happening is unprecedented (the loss of jobs), but rather that ai itself is something so new that hasn't really had legislation considered and implemented yet. personally i would be really sad if someone generated ai art and it was almost identical to something i had spent hours making.
also there are plenty and plenty of nonessential jobs, im not going to pick at specific roles, there's no need to say artists are at the "bottom of importance". nonessential jobs make our lives more enjoyable! (like entertainment, convenience, comfort, etc)
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u/esuil Mar 19 '23
also there are plenty and plenty of nonessential jobs, im not going to pick at specific roles, there's no need to say artists are at the "bottom of importance". nonessential jobs make our jobs more enjoyable! (like entertainment, convenience, comfort, etc)
Of course. I work in one of such jobs right now. The reason I said what I did is not because I think that artists should not get paid, or I dislike them, or don't think they should be be compensated for their time.
What I said simply comes from observation, because large part of the artist community before the AI did not actually behave like what they do is their job. They treated it as a hobby that pays them, and large part of artist community treated their fanbase like complete garbage. For any good artist who respected their clients, there was another one who acted like entitled prick. My observation is about latter, and how it is ironic how their tune had changed on this. From something they just do because they want or like, something they don't need to be polite or professional about since it is their "hobby", it suddenly turned into "career", "job" and livelihood.
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u/GoblixTheYordle Mar 19 '23
There shouldn't be harm in asking but the artist community has become one of the most entitled in the creative space.
Expecting to get free things is different from just asking. But people have become so disconnected with that.
It's making interactions with artists hard, there's always this expectation of money and it's hurting the community.
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u/Sartres_Roommate Mar 19 '23
.....is this meme not written over someone else's original work?
Just saying......
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u/DevilsAudvocate Mar 19 '23
You gotta come out waving a few bucks before you start asking for a paid commission or you'll frighten away artists like they're bunnies you just wanna pet.
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u/GamingAtheist6701 Mar 20 '23
My first thought was “Can you draw me furry NSFW” shit, then I realized this was Choosing Beggars lol
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Mar 20 '23
"Hello, I saw your art! It's so cool!"
"Can you do me a favour?"
"If possible, I wanna see your commission prices, if you have them."
Throw a little curveball at them.
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u/AnimatorUpset9530 Mar 20 '23
I always find it weird when I ask an artist I like to draw me something and ask a price for that, they get upset
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u/2001_Chevy_Prizm Mar 20 '23
Oddly enough I feel like I can't pay the artists I know to do something for me. I'm thinking about posting on reddit for a commission for a small company but I don't trust strangers to send money and stuff.
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u/Ana-Hata Mar 22 '23
And then you have the scammers that insist on paying you ten times what the art is worth………then they ask you to send most of the money back because oops.
I saw an artist throw a scammer off their game because the art was so inexpensive. How much?……… $5…….I want to buy 100 of them, then.
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u/Epicboss67 Mar 19 '23
Art is way too expensive imo but it's crazy people think they can get it for free
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u/biggyjules Mar 19 '23
On the other hand I've tried contacting cool artists if they're taking any commissions because I'm interested in paying for something innocent and fun and they're always closed 😔.
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u/ut-dom-throwaway Mar 19 '23
Always tip well when you ask for commissions! If they know you're a good paying customer, they give you their very best work.
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u/Upstairs-Injury9660 Mar 20 '23
I’m a new hobbyist photographer and the other week I was approached by my first scammer. The payment for the rights to use my picture was to be sent to me via email which raised a red flag and I demanded payment via Venmo or CashApp, the scammer left me alone when I doubled down on my payment preference
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u/Interesting_Natural1 Mar 19 '23
If they say that they're paying you in exposure just give them a stick figure or let a child go batshit with crayons