r/ChoosingBeggars • u/kaputpiles6 • Mar 18 '23
"Please do not waste my time and apply if this salary does not meet your expectations." WOW, JUST WOW!
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u/StinkyFeet205 Mar 18 '23
Them: "My email must be broken, I'm not getting any of the replies to my ad".
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u/Classic-Ad3223 Mar 18 '23
I worked at a company with an awful reputation. We posted our job openings on LinkedIn and would often get little to no response at all on our postings (low salaries, bad reputation, awful hours, etc). Well the company actually complained to LinkedIn ! saying they weren’t getting the posting out there and attracting people
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u/elaina__rose Mar 19 '23
I worked for a company hiring extra people for some larger workload days. They put out an ad offering an hourly rate less than half of the industry standard. They had to take the ad down less than a day later due to the response.
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u/theSeanage Mar 18 '23
Where’s that bicyclist putting a stick in his own spoke meme at for all this. Yeesh
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u/jrs1980 Mar 19 '23
When that happened to my old employer, they just changed their name.
……again.
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u/bionicjess You aren't even good... Mar 19 '23
Sounds like something a low rent callcenter would do
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u/Snackgirl_Currywurst Mar 20 '23
And that's why my dad always told me to never go for the cheapest option when it comes to any service. Pretty solid advice so far.
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u/02K30C1 Mar 19 '23
I hope they get a string of people who accept the job then never show up
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u/certified_fresh Mar 19 '23
I’d honestly apply, oversell myself and then never deliver just to spite them
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u/Snowchief1989 Mar 19 '23
This is posted on Upwork. They will probably (unfortunately) get 100s of replies from low wage countries where 60 USD a month is a lot, or at least a liveable wage. These adds are targeted at those people.
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u/bipin1997chandra Mar 20 '23
Lol, trust me even in a low wage country you need to offer atleast $350 pm and do not expect them to work more than 3-4 US working hours in efficiency terms.
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u/OK_LK Mar 18 '23
'Plus work bonuses'
... I will provide electricity to power your laptop (you must provide your own) and heating
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u/Apprehensive_Pug6844 Mar 18 '23
Mr. Burns enters the chat…
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u/Toxic-Park Mar 19 '23
That’s right! Crack those atoms! You there! Turn out those pockets. (Looks at turned out pockets with magnifying glass) Atoms! One, two….six of them!
Take him away!
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u/StinkyFeet205 Mar 18 '23 edited Mar 18 '23
AND we'll give you your very own pencil.
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u/Low-Television-7508 Mar 18 '23
Does the pencil have an eraser, and is it sharp? I'm not falling for that again.
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u/chicken_nugget08 Mar 18 '23
“Must understand speak and understand English” “Must be have excellent attention to detail” mf do you understand English?
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u/Chaotic-Stardiver Mar 19 '23
Oh very much yes, English is am my first language, I am very professional in it.
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u/Accurate-Temporary73 Mar 19 '23
Well yeah the applicant needs English because the poster clearly doesn’t.
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u/RobotsAndNature Mar 18 '23
Per month?? I thought 60 per WEEK was ridiculous til I re-read it, holy crap.
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u/Mypasswordbepassword Shes crying now Mar 18 '23
$60 per day is still ridiculous
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u/ResolverOshawott Mar 19 '23
It's not bad for those in foreign countries since that's like double to triple the minimum daily wage in the Philippines per day.
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u/Pieinthesky42 Mar 19 '23 edited Mar 19 '23
That’s $7.50 per hour which is higher than the USA federal minimum wage. I totally agree it is ridiculous, nobody can live on that pittance, and for full time work too.
Edit- this math is “per day” everyone. I’m responding in thread to the comments above mine. I can’t believe I have to clarify that but, obviously that will make it the highest wage and miles above that the OG post offers.
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u/No-Annual-9633 Mar 19 '23
It’s 0.34 cents per hour - $60 per month for 40 hour weeks!!!!!
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u/wedontlikespaces Mar 19 '23 edited Mar 19 '23
Greatest country in the world ladies and gentlemen. I could get more then that on the dole
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u/PaulAspie Mar 19 '23
I get you can't live on the USA, but there are plenty of places you can live reasonably comfortably for $7.50 an hour. $60 US a day in India provides for a family.
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u/Severe_Report Mar 19 '23
You need to re-check your math. $60 a month for 160 hours of work is less than $.38 an hour. That’s just over three dollars a day now to put it in perspective. The locations were three dollars a day would feed a family don’t have Internet connection and more than likely don’t have computers.
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u/Altruistic_Depth5557 Mar 19 '23
60/Month for 40 hours per week actually works out to 0.38/hour - not even close to a poverty wage. More like slave labour!
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u/Graeme_Cracker Mar 18 '23
I’m wondering if this is in a “developing nation,” where they can still get away with it.
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u/juan_cena99 Mar 19 '23
Unless this is like in South Africa or extreme levels of poverty 60 usd per month for full time work is still too small even for 3rd world countries.
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u/munky82 Mar 19 '23
Minimum wage in South Africa is about $1.40/h (ZAR25) so it wont even fly there.
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u/lurking_terror--- Mar 19 '23
Do developing nations usually pay in dollars?
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u/Gaby5011 Mar 19 '23
Some do, yes. Zimbabwe is a good example, they had ridiculous inflation, so everyone just switched to $USD.
Or their currency doesn't have a unicode sign thing ($£€¥), so they just use $, like Brazil for example.
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u/Kitkat276 Mar 19 '23
In Zim now you're forced to use the local currency if you're using a bank account. Dollars are still used but the government is trying to make their use difficult to force people back to the local currency
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u/Hindulovecowboy Mar 19 '23
$0.25/ hr
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u/JesPeanutButterPie Mar 19 '23
That was my "allowance" as a little kid in the 1970s. (Price of the video game at the cheap restaurant my parents liked to frequent once a week....coincidence? LOL). Even then it was WAY less than my classmates got.
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u/5678youaregreat Mar 19 '23
It works out to 37.5 cents per hour Working 8 h a day x 5 days per week x 4 weeks per month at $60 per month.....
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u/barrettcuda Mar 19 '23
My assumption was it was an hourly rate, this guy just forgot a few zeros off the monthly sum
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u/InflamedLiver Mar 18 '23
or, about 35 cents per hour.
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u/nope-nope-nope-nop Mar 18 '23
I think prisoners make more than that.
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u/Marktwain12 Mar 18 '23
Can confirm. A licensed electrician in federal prison makes $120 a month
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u/Consistent_Policy_66 Mar 19 '23
Yeah, but that includes housing and food, plus protection. Living in a gated community has its perks.
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u/Marktwain12 Mar 19 '23
Housing (a concrete room and a poor excuse for a mattress.), food (studies have actually shown that prison food causes more health problems for inmates than grocery store food link with some more info) protection (by protection you mean the constant threat of being stabbed or jumped?)
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u/Consistent_Policy_66 Mar 19 '23
You clearly missed the sarcasm in my post.
Prison clearly isn’t nice. The main reason I don’t go to prison is because I like walks in the woods, and I don’t violate laws.
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u/Marktwain12 Mar 19 '23
I might have missed some. But it was a good opportunity to point those things out
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u/ToughNefariousness23 Mar 19 '23
How does a prisoner become a licensed electrician? Do you have personal experience in that?
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u/Marktwain12 Mar 19 '23
Become a licensed electrician and then go to prison. Boom the prison got their new electrician
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u/AppalachianEnvy Mar 19 '23
One of my family members became a master electrician in prison, as well as getting their HVAC certification and I can’t even remember what else. They got a job making like $45/hr straight out the gate.
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u/pmactheoneandonly Mar 19 '23
It varies state to state, but you have to go to electrical schooling as well as complete thousands of hours of an apprenticeship under a certified journeyman or master electrician. I think the hours requirement in my state is like 8000 or some shit.
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u/rupat3737 I can give you exposure Mar 19 '23
Depends on the job. Some places I was locked up had a factory next door you could work at if you were lucky. Other jobs on site paid less than that.
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u/VoiceOfSoftware Mar 18 '23
I found the original posting, with slightly different additional wording: They need 3 freelancers, will pay $110 per month, and MUST BE ABLE TO INPUT AT LEAST 500 RECORDS PER DAY
The weird wording on the ad: "***IF YOU ARE INTERESTED PLEASE MESSAGE ME NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND***"
...what the heck does that even mean? How else would some poor slave let them know they're interested in being mistreated?
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u/VoiceOfSoftware Mar 18 '23
What's suuuuper odd is that 30 people have expressed interest in this 'job'. Are they bots? What's the scam here?
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u/fun_mak21 Mar 18 '23
Could be an MLM. They are notorious for pulling crap like this. It also would make sense because those people don't make any money. The "interest" could be the down line trying to be supportive.
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u/The100thIdiot Mar 18 '23
Live in a third world country where $100 is a lot of money.
Apply for all three jobs under different names.
Get Chat GPT to generate your 1500 records a day.
Profit
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u/Four_beastlings Mar 19 '23
In which 3rd world country is $100 a lot of money?
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u/The100thIdiot Mar 19 '23
Afghanistan. Average monthly wage is $33.
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u/Four_beastlings Mar 19 '23
And would a normal person looking for a job have access to a laptop and fast, stable internet? I don't see how you can't get enough money for a laptop, even the cheapest one, on $33.
(As an aside, I now understand the story my bf told me where he needed a comb for his beard in Afghanistan and the guy at the market wanted $10 for it and my bf thought it was way too much...)
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u/The100thIdiot Mar 19 '23
It was a joke.
But if you want to take it literally, $100 for 5 minutes a day for a month works out about $60 per hour.
Not bad money in most countries.
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u/gemini88mill Mar 18 '23
How is this legal?
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u/nope-nope-nope-nop Mar 18 '23
There is no minimum wage for 1099 sub Contractors. Assuming that’s what this is offering. So they would have to pay their own taxes out of that 60$ also.
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u/Lucky_Duck_ Mar 18 '23
And this is a screenshot of Upwork, so they only get 80% of the fee after Upwork takes their cut. So 48 dollars per month before taxes. Though they probably wouldn't owe taxes at that low of an income unless they had other income.
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u/nope-nope-nope-nop Mar 18 '23
Assuming the person who takes this role likes the finer things in life… like eating and living in a building, they would probably need more income than 600$ a year net.
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u/caitmac Mar 19 '23
Contractors still have to pay self employment taxes, no matter how small the income (in the US at least).
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u/yun-harla Mar 18 '23
And assuming that this would genuinely be classified as a 1099 independent contractor position instead of an employment relationship. Lots of employers misclassify employees as ICs and too many of them get away with it, in large part because employees don’t know their rights and/or are desperate.
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u/nope-nope-nope-nop Mar 18 '23
I was assuming the 1099 status due to the pay. 1099 would be the only legal way to pay someone 35 cents an hour for work.
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u/yun-harla Mar 19 '23
Yeah, I’m sure the person who posted the job wants it to be 1099 if they’re in the US, precisely so they don’t have to pay minimum wage. But the amount of pay isn’t part of the test for an employment versus IC relationship. It varies from state to state, but it usually has to do with things like how much control the alleged employer has over the alleged employee’s work.
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u/nope-nope-nope-nop Mar 19 '23
Interesting, I didn’t know that there was a point where someone had to be a W-2 employee based on the type of work. It’s time to do enough internet research on this topic to argue about it online but not actually know anything about it.
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u/CIAMom420 Mar 18 '23
It isn’t in the United States or a country with adequate labor laws, clearly.
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u/JamboSummer19 Mar 18 '23
No one will apply, and then it will be “No one wants to work!!!”
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u/parrotopian Mar 18 '23
This is so obviously unreasonable as a salary, I wonder if it is posted with the intention of getting a work visa for someone. You can apply for a work visa for a non national if you have advertised and can't find anyone to take the job, so make up a job that no one will accept. (I'm in Ireland not US but I'm guessing may have something similar there?)
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u/Numerous-Mix-9775 Mar 18 '23
VA literally stands for “virtual assistant,” they’re trying to find someone in a third-world country (this is still too low a pay rate).
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u/Teripid Mar 18 '23
Right.. even day labor in most poorer countries is much higher than this. Computer access, internet and electricity make this a net loss on many levels
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u/ZoraksGirlfriend Mar 18 '23
My husband works in tech in the US and he said the way companies do it here is to make an extremely specific job listing just for the person they want to hire. They post it for a while, but they can say that no other “qualified” candidates applied, so they have to give it to this person that needs the visa.
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u/trbochrg Mar 18 '23
Lol, "must be have excellent attention to detail"
Really?
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u/GTXJ99 Mar 18 '23
"Must understand speak and understand English."
There's a Blazing Saddles joke in there somewhere.
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u/Numerous-Mix-9775 Mar 18 '23
This is for a virtual assistant position. I’ve been a VA for years - the person who wrote this listing is hoping to find someone in a third-world country for cheap. You can find super-cheap VAs but this is still so low they’ll struggle to have anyone apply.
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u/Classic-Ad3223 Mar 18 '23
$720 a year = .35 hour on a 40 hour work week that this job is listed as.
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u/NormalUsernameTaken Mar 18 '23
Post the link here, I am sure no one will apply to mess with them
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u/ScenicPineapple Mar 18 '23
They should really just come out and say "we want slave labor." I don't know a single human that can live on $60 a month.
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u/Be_nice_to_animals Mar 18 '23
I want to apply, soooo curious what’s going on here
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u/RinoaRita Mar 18 '23
It seems like some thing is up. Not just a you get in from the ground floor! Type post.
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u/Saffer13 Mar 19 '23
Requires "Excellent attention to detail"
Writes "Must understand speak and understand English"
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u/TechnoJoeHouston Mar 20 '23
"-Must understand speak and understand English"
Why should I? You certainly do not.
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u/spookyyvaginosis Mar 19 '23
the amount of errors and the audacity to require understanding of english when the very sentence says “must understand speak and understand english”
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u/Battleaxe1959 Mar 19 '23
$0.37/hr. My first job as a babysitter in 1972, paid me $0.50/hr and I was 13.
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u/rayofhope313 Mar 18 '23
Which country is that?
Because if its something like USA then its not that it would not suite me, I would be living on the street in the first month
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u/mekonsrevenge Mar 18 '23
Whaaaat? I'm just befuddled. Who would post an offer this stupid? Is it like those deliberately illiterate warnings from Amazon or a random bank meant to weed out all but the most feeble-minded?
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u/fernyexotic Mar 18 '23
Upwork strikes again. I did work with some decent people through them at one point, but more often than not it’s jokers like this…
Freelance ≠ FREE!!!
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u/Neravosa Mar 18 '23
Some fuckers on Upwork need to have their client accounts locked. That's all I can say about that.
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u/Chaotic-Stardiver Mar 18 '23
Even 600 per month is too low. But 60? I don't know anyone desperate enough who would take this
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u/alwaysmyfault Mar 19 '23
"Must be have (sic) excellent attention to detail"
No wonder he's looking for someone with excellent attention to detail, because his grammar skills shows he has no attention to detail.
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u/wordsmythy Mar 19 '23
How's about we all waste his time by applying and then letting him know the salary does not meet our expectations?
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u/Massacre_Alba Mar 18 '23
[Int. Office. Day time. A man is slouching over a desk, staring at a computer monitor]
"Nobody wants to work anymore!"
[A cow drops on him from the sky]
End scene.
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u/Hendiadic_tmack Mar 19 '23
How to apply for this and waste this persons time? I’ll do that for free.
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u/jayessmcqueen Mar 19 '23
Please everybody apply! Let’s get them working reviewing applications 8 hours a day 5 days a week for $0.
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u/Nowjamessayswtf Mar 19 '23
Wish you could link the contact info because nothing would bring be greater joy than to apply and waste the ever living fuck out of their time
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u/sleepyJoesBidet Mar 19 '23
If applicants are rejecting over the wage, thats a sign it is out of touch with the market.
Something tells me this is one of those work from home scams with "training" videos, you have to pay for. Having absurd requirements helps weed out those with any brains..
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u/PumpkinPure5643 Mar 19 '23
I don’t think that’s legal anywhere in the US. Full-time means minimum wage. They could be prosecuted for wage theft.
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u/DontBlinkx33 Mar 19 '23
‘Must be have excellent attention to detail’
Well I guess we can see why he’s looking for someone 😂
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u/Rad-surlak Mar 19 '23
- Must be have excellent attention to detail.
- Must understand speak and understand English
Interesting
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u/JunkMale975 Mar 19 '23
Must understand speak and understand English
So not qualified for the job yourself, huh?
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u/-FlyingFox- Mar 19 '23
They want someone to do all of that for only $60 a month. And people in hell want ice water, too. LOL
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u/Gnowae Mar 19 '23
Wait that's gotta be a joke right? Right?
$60p/m full time hours, this person is cooked
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u/Big_Fat_Polack_62 Mar 19 '23
Sixty whole dollars a month? Wow! I got paid more in the Army. In the 80's. With free room and board thrown in. What kind of a world does this asshole live in?
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u/PhotographBusy6209 Mar 19 '23
Here I’m in Australia thinking it’s a $60 per hour job which sounds decent enough
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u/OldManJeepin Mar 21 '23
Wow...$60/month? I would be able to afford that tank of gas I was saving for!! Sign me up!
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u/PollPixx Mar 18 '23
No idea how this works in other countries, but over here in the netherlands this is not legal. Arent their laws about minimum wages in every country??
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u/PizzaNuggies Mar 18 '23
I know a lot of people in the comments are probably arguing that people in India, etc would do this, but no they wouldn't. Get on these gig websites and look at the prices. Its not cheap. No one on there is working a 160 hour job for 60 bucks.
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u/Ithink-imoverit2405 Mar 19 '23
$60/month on 8 hours a day work?
Not even me in Indonesia wants to take it.
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u/sethasaurus666 Mar 18 '23
I'm tempted to get this job and then fuck it up royally, just for spite.
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u/mnemonicprincess Mar 18 '23
Well at least they posted the salary.